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| Topic Started: May 9 2008, 12:27 AM (861 Views) | |
| Post #1 May 9 2008, 12:27 AM | Bonzolee |
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So, who here is pissed? Are you pissed? Great! We are in need of a good, boneshaking rant around here and I'm just not in the mood to give it. Step on up, all ye who are pissed! |
 
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"Brain disorders, like madness, are themselves contagious. The frequency of madness among doctors who are specialists for the mad is notorious." – Gustave Le Bon "The fact that audiences would rather go to Wonderland than face Iraq speaks volumes." – Random Youtube Poster | |
 
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| Post #2 May 9 2008, 03:14 AM | Huxley |
| I was pissed last night. Now I am sober and have a pair of broken spectacles. |
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| Post #3 May 9 2008, 04:43 AM | Joe E. Holman |
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I wanna get laid again and my girl's puttin' me off! Plus, I gotta work all week and I feel soar throat-y. A very soft rant, but a rant nonetheless! |
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| Post #4 May 9 2008, 09:26 AM | Dreamer |
| There are women who live near me who think it's ok to show their boobs to married or taken men in the hopes of getting money or sex. STOP IT! I'm tired of whores using their bodies to get what they want. How about finding a single man, settling down, and living a normal life instead of trying to steal one of our men??? Ok, I'm done.......... |
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| Post #5 May 9 2008, 02:49 PM | Huxley |
| How comes I only get the ones that want money? |
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| Post #6 May 10 2008, 08:48 PM | Dreamer |
| Cause yer hot? |
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| Post #7 May 10 2008, 10:15 PM | Brad89 |
I'm a little more than willing to dish out some sort of a rant... So here it goes!  First off, I don't know if any of you currently do, ever did, may plan on, or have applied to work in a fast food restaurant, but I can tell you this much from the absolute fucking get-go... NEVER DO IT I've worked at Subway, the sandwich place, for literally one fucking week of my life. It was this week, and only this week, that I have ever been so upset with a facet of life... First off, the job sucks balls. It just naturally does, and forever shall continue to do so... Jackass customers on their 'lunchbreaks' and jackass managers screaming in your ear, pissed off drive through customers who you try to hear as clearly as possible, yet they are wispering into the fucking talkbox... Basically, it sucks. I think I have cemented that much thus far... Well, anyway, considering I decided it was worth keeping my other job (over at Macy's), I worked over 42 hours last week, with school right in the middle of it all. Didn't have one single fucking day off! I had to, essentially, permanently cancel my guitar lessons, tell this band that I was 'trying out' for that we had to reschedule our jam for a time in which I wasn't working (which, eventually, I called and told them I couldn't do it because I would have no time whatsoever to dedicate to practice)... Those guitar lessons and being in a band is one of those things that I hold so close to myself that I might go 'Kurt Cobain Insane' if I don't at least pursue it. Music was the man's life. He once cut his finger at a job, and quit immediately for fear that he would never play guitar again, as he would kill himself if he couldn't... I'm not that crazy, but shit, I've wanted to learn the guitar since I was 13! I didn't even own one until last Christmas, which I fucking practiced on for, like, 5 hours a day to try to 'rush' being a competent guitarist... So, at that point in time where I thought "Hey, maybe I can do this!" thus deciding to check out the "Musicians wanted" notice board, some stupid fucking job decides to schedule me from the moment I get off of school to an average of 12:30 at night. If I would have had homework on any of those days, I'd have been royally screwed... But really, considering school has come to an end, I don't care about that anyway. But how the fuck is anybody expected to jam in somebody's garage if you are expected to be at some job every 5 fucking minutes?! I know that I don't have it bad. There are people starving in the world. People who don't have homes to sleep in. Maybe I don't exactly have this much leniency to rant my lungs out... But I, too, am pissed, so I thought it was worth sharing.
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| Post #8 May 11 2008, 09:35 AM | Huxley |
| Continue with your education. Its the difference between asking "Roger that, vectoring onto bogeys. Going sonic; eta 3 mins" and "you want fries with that?" |
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| Post #9 May 12 2008, 12:30 AM | Bonzolee |
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Brad and Dreamer, nice rants. I've never worked fast food, but some of my mates have. One of my ex gfs actually got proposed to when she worked the drive thru once, and has gotten stuff tossed at her. One of my bros had all sorts of shit happen to him. The other employees aren't exactly all that great either. It's insane. I've had some great, epic battles at some of the places I've worked at though. Do not expect me to keep my mouth shut. I actually went balistic one Christmas Eve at this one place. Didn't even get fired either. I still walked out though and I could tell my boss was way beyond pissed when I did that. Well, she shouldn't have been such a bitch. I showed up that day sipping rum and just ready for a war after the shit her and her little "assclown tribe" pulled on me and this other employee for the past 5 days. They were the laziest crew I've ever worked with. It was great fun though.... you know, the quitting part. Some of the jobs I've had have been fairly cool though. I had this one boss at a fruitstand who took us all to Hawaii. I'll probably work there a bit this Summer. Fun job. It sucks man. I've been in music for a few years now, and you have to find jobs that give you some extra room. I don't have much cash, so I have to create my own fun, but, I do get to do what I love doing. It's like having two jobs though, and the job that pays close to nothing is the job you have to give priority to. Hey man, when you spend all your time working a shitty job and following orders so someone else can get rich, you have every right to complain in my book. - I should note that having meltdowns at work is not something I'd recomend for everyone. Depends on your current situation. Edited by Bonzolee, May 12 2008, 12:32 AM.
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| Post #10 May 13 2008, 02:23 AM | Bonzolee |
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Brad, I've got some shit to say. I'm going to get a bit personal and all, but I figure we're a small, tight enough community. I realize I may have come off as "trash" in my last post. Imo anyway. Sort of. Ha! :P Well, I'm a musician from a small town type place. There's a bunch of strip malls, and a never ending, cold, dark highway. That's about it. A lot of places are just closing up as big, corporate chains move in. Music is tough, but rewarding. I love doing it. Us musicians live a strange life though. You're graduating soon, right? Well, I've been to college. I've eaten some lunches there, and I've chatted with some professors about all sorts of stuff. I wasn't enrolled, mind you. Some friends just invited me over on a lunch break to eat some food. Cool enough place. I haven't ruled it out completely, but what could I possibly do with it at the moment? I've got a back-up that's in a different direction that's already set. You know, some of my friends went to college, some didn't. One of my friends is this really smart guy who hopes to be a film director. He runs his own independent, local music rag and everything. Didn't attend college but he's got some plans and he's doing a helluva job, imo. Always up to something. I've got some friends who went to college. Some of them are doing great. They've got a plan, their lives are well balanced, and they stand for something. Others, are the bland, tie wearing, kiss ass type ready to go into the "business world". They are out of touch with reality in a way. College or not, rise above, man. Don't be a robot. Have a "vision" of sorts. Stand up. Go balls out. Anyone can make plans. Do it. But rise above all the shit that's out there. Don't become a different person, one who you don't respect, to achieve those goals. Some just wasted away at college and wasted money. I'm in my early 20s and after being out of high school for a few years, you get interested in what other people are up to. I've met a lot of old friends, whether they were an "extra" who I sometimes saw or someone I ate lunch with everyday. You see all sorts of stuff and all different kinds of lives. But you know what? A lot of people still don't really have any idea what tomorrow may bring. Some of them just disappointed me, to be honest. The whole robot thing, you know? Others are up to some cool stuff and they've really got their wits about. Honestly, none of us could succeed. You never know, and just because I can play the drums like nobody's business and write pretty kick ass songs (w/ my band) doesn't mean I have something. Neither does my friend with the rag and many projects and connections, and neither do any of my college friends. We try to prepare for something, but you never know. There are so many factors at play, and all you can do is try. A degree or a trained skill doesn't guarantee you anything. It helps though. It helps. Just keep your head on your shoulders and never have a lack of moves. You always have moves, you just gotta see em'. And don't get stuck working some job you hate. Work it, get the money, get the experience, but don't be "OK" with it. Do something. Work towards something, and put that sucker in play! Hux suggested college. That's a choice. Trade school is another. Music, whatever. Tons of options. Pick what you like, what you are good at. But, ALWAYS have some sort of a net, just don't rely on it. I've got one, believe or not. I'd hate to have to use it though. Just commenting on stuff I've seen and all. One of my friends, she got married at 21. I've wished her well and all, but you know it's going to be tough. Blue collar through and through. Hope they pull things through. Doing OK at the moment. I'm trying hard and all, but just like everyone, you never know. I've been this close to just saying fuck it with the music. It's a rollercoaster ride. Hell, I've seen college grads move back in with their parents after graduating and just sit there because they can't get a job in their field. It sucks. Grad school is where the edge is at now. To get the same type of income a guy got with high school in the 60s, you now need two people with college degrees. You're a smart dude. I respect you, man. Know that. Put that energy and intelligence to use as early as possible. You've got tons of it. If things don't work out, you can always say you gave it your best shot, and that's always better than not trying. The worst thing one can do is not try, because you'll always fail at something if you do that. You'll sit around for years talking about how you "could have" done that. You "could have" gotten a degree. You "could have" started that business. You "could have" joined the navy. You "could have" written that book or song. Don't talk about doing shit. Set up some goals, accomplish each step, and go for it. Don't wait for some moment to come to you. Work towards it. Now. There's my late night ramble for the month. Keep it real, man. Edited by Bonzolee, May 13 2008, 02:24 AM.
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| Post #11 May 19 2008, 12:15 AM | Brad89 |
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I'm really sorry that I'm just now seeing this post! I just finally had a spare moment away from all the garbage of the past few days... By the way, I graduated today. Ceremony and all that shit. Happy stuff abound!!! Now I'm a real live adult! I can do taxes and work full time and EVERYTHING! But anyway...
See, here's the thing though... You guys are GOOD musicians! As for I... I am not quite a good musician. My god, how much I would love to be! I swear, no exaggeration whatsoever when I say I practice an average of 4 hours a day. Seriously, I am absolutely dead set on 'hurrying' the process of becoming a good musician that I sacrifice that much time a day towards it. I almost never did my homework because of that stupid freaking guitar! Which... Doesn't matter much now...  See, though, you have the ability to kind of, you know... Worry about the other extreme complications of the music world. I however, have the absolutely intense fear of fucking up royally during a live show or something. Every time I sit in my stupid little chair in front of the very laptop I sit at right now, I'll try my very hardest to keep rhythm with myself and play the riff I'm trying correctly, and almost every single time I screw up so bad that I want to give up. You, however, have actually had experience recording, playing with a band of OTHER PEOPLE, and are good enough with your instrument that you don't really have to worry about screwing up royally. I assume... :P And trust me, this is coming from a guy who spends a LOT of time watching live concert footage of bands and such... The fact is this: THEY NEVER SCREW UP. I sit there, literally watching to see if somebody else ever will screw up live, and not a single time do they ever do it!!! Granted... I'm not sure that it's actually possible to 'hurry' instrumental prowess.  I don't know...I'll talk more later... Right now (like always... :unsure: ) I'm about ready to pass out. Night, yall! |
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| Post #12 May 19 2008, 03:23 AM | Joe E. Holman |
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Gnight, Brad. I guess graduating is worth a Kudos, as is facing the fear of crowds. Hehe. But I think they do mess up. They just keep going and no one notices! You have no idea how life experiences have taught me that. As a preacher who could preach without the help of notes, I got up and realizzed I forgot a number of things while up there. But then I also realized that no one knew it half the time! So you just act all high and mighty and no one catches on! |
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| Post #13 May 19 2008, 09:16 AM | Huxley |
| That has got to be the best job description for a Pastor, ever. |
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| Post #14 May 19 2008, 11:33 PM | Bonzolee |
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4 hours a day is a pretty good schedule. You practice chords and leads? Are your hands skinny or are they more chubby? You've got to find out what your body is naturally good at. That's what Glen Tipton of Judas Priest did. Then, you'll build some chops that will make it easier for you to go back and take care of the stuff you're going to have to work harder to get down. Back when I was learning how to wrestle, this guy told me "look, no one's a natural. You hear guys like HHH say how good he was when he started- bullshit. Sure, they may be better grounded from studying it on TV or going to shows, but everyone sucks at first. It's not about who is at the top at the start, but about who is at the top when it's all said and done." I couldn't even pick a single string without intense concentration and looking at the strings when I started. I couldn't do the most basic beat on drums when I started. K.K. Downing of Priest has "breakthroughs". Like, if you were to chart his playing, it would not be in a straight slope. The line would be mostly horizontal, and in quick, short periods, the line just shoots straight up before leveling out. That's how his skill progresses. It has happened to me too in a couple of different areas on the drums, though it's not the rule for me as it is for him. That's just one way though. Zakk Wylde practiced something like 14 hours a day at one point; no mental part to it, he just took it all head on. His theory is that if you start things slow, and gradually speed up as you get it down, you can learn anything. Sure, it might take over 1,000 attempts, but you'll eventually get it. Joe Satriani went about things differently. 4 hours is good, because your brain can only handle so much. He studied studies on the brain to see what the best practice schedule would be. He would practice chords and licks in the morning, and jam with friends for fun in the afternoon. He had a chord book and his objective was to learn every chord in that book, and be able to jam on any chord sequence he faced. Steve Vai would punish himself, wouldn't let himself go out to social events, go out on dates, eat food, move from a spot, stuff like that until he learned the piece he was obsessing over. He was taught to play by Satriani, and Satch said that by far, Vai was the worst student he ever had at the start. He couldn't do anything at all! Couldn't even play simple scales at slooowww tempos after practicing. But, Vai progressed damn fast after getting over that initial trouble, faster than anyone he's ever seen according to Satch. Eddie Van Halen just practiced a lot because he loved it. He wanted to do it for the sake of doing it. Because of that, he has no other skills, but he is a hell of a guitarist and one gem of a composer. To this day, he really can't socialize, or speak to others all that great, so he speaks with the guitar. He said he was kind of worried about dealing with girls back when he was a teen, but assured himself that if he could play real well, he wouldn't have too much of a problem. Stuff you take for granted that you just kind of learn in the process of growing up the man never learned because he was too busy jamming in his room along to Cream records. I totally dig it and respect it too, because I "get" Van Halen. He invested all this time and energy into something he was drawn into, and his reasons for doing so are pure. I get where he's coming from. I just wish he'd get over his drug problems he has now. Plus, he's one of the rare people who understand the approach to music Cream took. I use a combination of different methods to reach the results I have. All of the above included. First off, don't forget that you are training and building muscles, so if all of a sudden you become a sloppy mess, just give it a rest for a day or two so your muscles can regroup. Muscles won't regroup if they don't rest. Also, do you know the difference between fast and slow twitch muscles? Make sure you do, and think of how that relates to playing guitar. And yeah, I've been known to do the Steve Vai thing at times and do a "punishment/reward system" type thing to keep myself in check. When I read that he also did this, I felt good somebody else was as crazy as I was! But, if you're like me, you're going to incorporate all sorts of ideas. I go by this mantra: To get good at something, you need to practice hard, practice smart, and practice long. You need focus, intensity, intelligence, knowledge of anything that might relate to what you're doing, and time. You can't fail as long as you make sure the outcome all comes down on you. That's the difference between writing a great poem or trying to sell a great poem: the former rests on you, the latter rests on all sorts of other things. That's what I love about music- it's all you. The business side of things has nothing to do with becoming a great musician. I still have a lot of old mags and stuff, so if you want any practice exercises or interviews, just let me know and I can run them through my scanner. Back to practice though, make sure you know what you are doing. Also, as K.K. Tipton was explaining once, you only have so much time. So, you have to choose which way you want to take things. You could spend your whole life on chords or leads, and you don't have that much time, really. I like a balance in my playing, and so does he. Or as Zakk Wylde said, "It's like keeping old clothes you ain't wearing anymore. Have no use for them? Give them away or something!" Experiment and try out different things, but try to utilize what you learn in your music. If you can't, it's a waste. I'm trying to give you some pointers, but I could probably sit here all day and leave stuff out. Hopefully, you get the foundation of what I'm saying. Btw, you can "hurry" instrumental prowess. Be realistic though. My guitarist learned Van Halen's entire catalog in about 3-4 years. Not really sure which. Years don't mean shit unless you really practice, and really, in less than 5 years you can be a highly skilled, top of the line rocker. Easy. That's the bottom line. I've walked all over drummers who've been playing for longer than I've been alive. I started playing drums in high school, but never took lessons or anything. Most of those guys don't, really. Bonham never took drum lessons. Van Halen never took guitar lessons. Vai learned some stuff from Satch, but Satriani himself was self trained. Also, if you don't know what you are talking about, it's hard to figure out if a teacher does. Listening to music and watching tapes was my exposure to the pros. And really, watching Rich's stick control or Bonham's fluidity is something you will only find in the best teachers. If you can find a teacher well versed in the basics of playing, they can save you some time. That's what I would look for if I wanted a teacher- someone who has a firm grasp of the basics. Randy Rhoads did take lessons though, his mother taught classical piano, actually. Even when he was famous, he still looked up teachers while on tour and payed a visit for a single lesson. They claimed he wound up teaching them! All the greats have that mindset though. They are always open minded to stuff, feel they can always improve, and are constantly looking out to see what other people are doing. Some take lessons, some listen to a wide variety of stuff, and some go around investigating and asking questions. Plenty of people pick up the instrument around the time I did: high school. How long you've been playing? You're probably fine. You've got the time. Right on track, man. And, pros mess up all the time, the general public just don't realize it. I've heard EVERYONE mess up. The difference between the pros and the rookies is this: pros are smooth. They can cover up mistakes so that only the most in tuned musicians (or veteran listeners) will pick up on it. Most of the crowd are not great musicians. They'll never pick up on it. Hell, I've dropped drumsticks in the middle of big fills (not too often!) and only some of the people in the first few rows even catch it! Joe and Hux hit the nail on the head with that. Gene Simmons says that if he hits a wrong note, he plays it with the conviction that it is the right note! What's the problem with keeping rhythm though? You lose the beat or do you just fudge up the part and things break down? If you lose the beat, try playing along to records more, or find some good people to jam with. A metronome, even. Or, if it's the actual part, just start slow, concentrate, and slowly progress until you have that sucker up to speed! Do you know what whole notes, half notes, quarter, eight, sixteenth, and thirty second notes are? Do you know the triplet feel? Understand what a triplet and all of its other forms are? I'd learn that REAL quick if you don't. I could explain it, even. Hey, you got any questions, shoot em'. I'll be able to answer them, more than likely. |
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| Post #15 May 21 2008, 01:27 AM | Brad89 |
Aye... Thank you! And, boy, I can totally act high and mighty. I'll just take some lessons from the good ol' Christians taught over the years!
Ah... I hope it is a good schedule! It's really hard to 'carve out' a 4 hour schedule from anything anymore! Stupid Subway!!!  And I practice a whole lot of... Drop D.  See, uh... I did practice a whole lot of standard tuning stuff, but got sick of the power chords shifting every which direction. Then, the day I found out what Drop D actually was... I ruined all of my playing for both the future and everything beyond it.I just really like how easy it makes playing riffs and stuff. All you have to do to make your playing more action packed and powerful is turn up the distortion and slap your finger across the top strings. And really, that's exactly what it is I was hoping to do with the guitar in the first place... Play some kick ass riffs! However, some of my favorite guitar players play using a whole lot of notes rather than power chords. I'd kind of like to get down on playing more with notes than chord progressions, because notes are quick and versatile. I have to GREATLY improve my string accuracy so as to be able to do that on stage and stuff, but till then, I'm totally jamming out on the pentatonic! And for those who don't know what it was I just said up there, what "Drop D" is is a way to tune the guitar. A power chord is simply a two or three stringed chord that you use to play... Whatever. For instance, the song "Seven Nation Army" uses single picked notes for a good amount of time, than kicks it into gear by playing the same thing, only using power chords. That's the best example I could think of. And "Drop D", in music, is essentially 'cheating'. Well, not really 'cheating', but it makes sounding cool and heavy so easy that it cheats you out of becoming a better guitar player. Or so it seems... It's that reason that playing in Drop D is considered a 'bad thing'.Oh yeah, and my hands are pretty big. Not Eddie Van Halen big, but they aren't scrawny little button fingertips.
Oh, man, could I relate with this!!! Seriously, that's essentially everything I'm going through. I just 'won't' be able to play something one day, and the next, I can do it with ease. I have no idea why it has to be so screwy, but that's just the way it works! It doesn't come on 'slowly', it comes by screwing up royally, falling asleep, then waking up the next day being able to shred like a pro.
I kinda wish I had heard this story before. It's pretty dang inspiring to know that being the 'worst' at one point in time doesn't mean shit! Especially a player like Steve Vai! 
I'll tell yall a story I heard about Van Halen... I have an uncle who was absolutely 'obsessed' with Van Halen as a teenager. Had their poster, all their CD's, and knew every single beat and measure of their songs by heart. Almost to the degree that you fear for the bands safety! Then I have another uncle who is essentially a 'nerd'... You know... Completely uninterested in a lot of the music realm and all things not chess and homework... Anyway... One day, my uncle stops by somewhere (I'm starting to forget how this part happened, or where they were... Mind you, I heard this a while back from my parents, so it's hard to remember every fine detail...) and sees "these guys" just sitting and chattin' it up at a table. Well, he decides to go and take up a seat right on over there next to none other than Van Halen! Apparently, the band just sort of looked at him, like "Does this guy know who we are?" Apparently, I believe, it was Eddie himself who broke into the conversation with him. After a few seconds, they realized he clearly had no idea they were famous or anything... So, apparently, they became very comfortable because he wasn't "Starstruck" to be in the same room as them. And, also, I heard that he discussed things involving computers and bicycling, which somebody else in the band found very interesting, as they carried on a conversation about it for quite a while. Well, later on, he returned home and told the story about how he talked to these guys who were pretty cool, and mentioned something or other about the guy being a musician. Apparently, my 'obsessed' uncle put the dots together (he knew Van Halen was in town for a show or something) and asked him, essentially yelling, "Was it THESE GUYS!!!" waving a poster of Van Halen in his face. Then my 'nerdy' uncle goes "Oh, yeah, that's them. I was talking with that guy," as he points at none other than Van Halen. And my 'obsessed' uncle... Threw a fit of rage at the lack of a picture or an autograph... Or even his lack of 'recognition' for them being the famous dudes that they are. Really crazy stuff!
Yeah, indeed! I noticed the muscle development within a few days, because I'd only be able to play for a few short minutes, and can now jam around for about an hour or so. My fingers used to get freaking jammed up and exhausted by the consistent power chord shifting, but has become much easier now. Once I get jamming with a band and such, it should become much easier to do so for extended periods of time.
It's only this reason that I don't 'regret' practicing in Drop D. I've never been a guy too concerned with the technical aspect of things. It's good to know, yeah, but I'm much more focused on writing catchy riffs and making music that people want to listen to rather than shredding randomly like some retarded death metal act. Whenever I come up with a riff that I like (mentally, usually) I record it to my computer. I'm hoping to set up a sample to hand out to bands looking for a guitarist. The only thing I'm afraid of is that they might try to steal some of my good riffs!
I've only played for about 5 months or so, and can outplay somebody who's played "Off/On" for about 6 years now. That's how you can tell who's "into" it and such! So, yeah, I know exactly the meaning of this.
Well, whenever I can no longer hear the music from my itunes due to jamming around so loudly, I have a habit of getting a little bit off of pace... I'm getting better, but I don't know what it's going to be like when I actually join a band and am expected to keep time with a drummer and such! Hopefully it won't be too hard... I know the notes, the 'triplets', I believe, are a part of a scale I haven't quite learned yet (the only scale I know is pentatonic, really...), and I'm trying to get down other stuff as well... I'm really hoping to get down on what a possible funk scale is. I'd like to incorporate some funky music sounds into metal playing styles, just to add a touch of uniqueness, if nothing else... 
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