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| Mist All Chucking Frighty!!!; Spoonerisms Extravaganza | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 2 2009, 05:31 AM (205 Views) | |
| Post #1 Oct 2 2009, 05:31 AM | Perry |
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This was allegedly shown on BBC TV back in the 70's. Ronnie Barker could say all this without a snigger, though after what knows how many takes. The irony is, BBC received not one complaint. The speed of delivery must have been too much for the whining herds. Try getting through it without converting the spoonerisms [and not wetting your pants] as you read.......
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| Post #2 Oct 2 2009, 06:20 AM | Joe E. Holman |
| Maybe this is one of those "guess you had to hear it" moments? |
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| Post #3 Oct 3 2009, 04:07 PM | Perry |
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To be fair, it is 'very British' humour, perhaps having greater appeal to those whose ethnicity leans that way. |
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| Post #4 Oct 5 2009, 10:53 PM | Carmel1110 |
Yeah, the trick is to read it aloud, rapidly while sporting a contrived, heavy British accent...though I also tried it with a thick German accent, which was even funnier. On second thought, Fuck that. Americans prefer it when our comedians just cuss, flat out. We are a raw, gritty lot, at times. |
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| Post #5 Oct 6 2009, 03:55 AM | Perry |
Somehow or other, the concluding statement doesn't necessarily follow on from the proposition - for me. |
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| Post #6 Oct 7 2009, 01:35 AM | Carmel1110 |
That's because of the way your "ethnicity leans" as you called it. What I meant was that American comedians have a long tradition of using "raw and gritty" material, combining political and social commentary with satirical humour. They don't use spoonerisms, they use the actual cuss words. Lenny Bruce was the forerunner of this style of comedy(late 50's/early 60's), but you can see his influence in later American comics, esp. Pryor, Carlin, Kinison, and more recently C. Rock, Chapelle, Stanhope, just to name a few. But me, I don't discriminate. I enjoy humour that is ..um...funny. I happen to love British humour. There's a strong sense of the absurd in it, which I find appealing. Some comedians seem to use a hybrid of both styles of comedy ...Izzard, Gervais(UK) and Chapelle(US) spring to mind. -- In honor of Lenny Bruce...a quote... There are no cuss words in it, but I thought it was amusing: "If Jesus had been killed 20 years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses." ~Lenny Bruce |
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| Post #7 Oct 7 2009, 04:23 AM | Perry |
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Yes, my leanings are towards the subtle, the satirical and the innuendo. I enjoyed the few bits of George Carlin I've seen. Ricky Gervais, too. But I draw a parallel between humour and debate. In debate, when one debases oneself by name-calling, swearing and ad hominem remarks, one has lost the debate - mostly. Humour seems much the same. The 'need' to stoop to a succession of four-letter expletives degrades the humour and the humorist - generally. To call it raw and gritty seems to me to be a eumphemism for vulgar and crass. As I've observed before, it seems that the 'jokes' foisted on many USAmericans via TV are so bad that a laugh machine is needed to lead them, as the humour is indiscernable, otherwise. That's plain scary.
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| Post #8 Oct 7 2009, 08:02 PM | Carmel1110 |
Generally, I would agree with that, except to say that there is a definite distinction between "raw and gritty" and "vulgar and crass" though the two can certainly overlap. "Raw and gritty" refers to a certain style of comedy that stems from New York comedy clubs. Many famous American comics are from New York...or have spent time there working the comedy clubs trying to make a name for themselves, but the raw New York style of humour isn't dependant upon cussing to be funny, It just so happens that many New York comics speak very directly and many of them cuss alot. If that's all they had to offer they, they would be booed off the stage. The competition is tough. What I find appealing about New York, "gritty" humor is that many of the comics offer insights into social institutions, such as religions, government, in ways that not only makes people laugh, it makes them think...and sometimes say inwardly, "Yeah, that's true, I never thought of it that way." ... Perhaps, some people underestimate the power of comedy, satire for social change..? ...I'm not one of those people. Edited by Carmel1110, Oct 7 2009, 08:07 PM.
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| Post #9 Oct 8 2009, 02:27 AM | Perry |
It's inherent in the nature of true artists to reveal things about our mundane world that we'd miss, not appreciate or simply ignore, ordinarily. With that I concur, unreservedly. |
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| Post #10 Oct 9 2009, 03:24 AM | Huxley |
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Hmmm. This is a little too Folk Loreish for my palette. I know Ronny Barker and he was a wizard with words and their pisromunciation. But he never said these words and it certainly was never broadcast. He was far to clever a wordsmith to be caught with anything so openly suggestive. |
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| Post #11 Oct 10 2009, 03:48 AM | Perry |
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I added the word 'allegedly' to allow for that very prospect. Edited by Perry, Oct 10 2009, 03:49 AM.
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