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Oh FFS!
Topic Started: Jul 13 2009, 09:35 AM (460 Views)
Huxley
As an aside, (I realise any atheist need not apply for the presidency) but I think you have to be the right type of religionist also. Is it not the case that Mitt romney wouldnt get the Republican ticket because he is a Mormon - and they are way too fuckin' stupid to be considered as Prez candidates?
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Carmel1110
No, Mitt Romney didn't get the nomination because his freakishly immovable, overly coiffed, retro hairdo scared people. ... Ok, yeah, it was the Mormonism.

But look at Huckabee. He was was considered a fundy Christian, and scared off the moderate Christian voters.

..and do we even need to discuss Obama and religion. He wasn't the "right" kind of Christian either (or Muslim or Atheist, as some claimed...), yet that didn't prevent him from winning the election.

Fickle Americans... :)
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Huxley
So would Huckabee have gotten anywhere if he was considered moderate?
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Carmel1110
Huxley,

Please choose from the following answers:

1. His religious fanaticism defined who he was, to a large degree, so it's difficult to speculate.

2. No, He was the perennial "nice guy" but he is a pansy-ass...not a good quality for a world leader.

3. The point is moot.

4. All of the above
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Huxley
Hey don't point that Moot at me!
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Bonzolee
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No, Mitt Romney didn't get the nomination because his freakishly immovable, overly coiffed, retro hairdo scared people.


Did you see back when he was on "Morning Joe" and the hosts tried to egg on his wife into messing with his hair? She gave him this long look, as if she was trying to make this huge, possibly suicidal decision, and then reached for Mitt's "do".

Mitt's reaction? Like a world class fencer, he raised his arm to block her attempt while he moved away from her in a panic. He looked like he was getting ready to challenge someone to a duel over it.

Dude's that crazy over his hair.

And how about how everybody would always say he looked the "most presidential"?

That was code for "Mitt Romney is by far the whitest candidate in the pack."
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"Brain disorders, like madness, are themselves contagious. The frequency of madness among doctors who are specialists for the mad is notorious."
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"The fact that audiences would rather go to Wonderland than face Iraq speaks volumes."
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Huxley
So, to cut through the bullshit, are Mormons far too scary to be considered as presidential candidates?
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Bonzolee
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So, to cut through the bullshit, are Mormons far too scary to be considered as presidential candidates?


Imo? Well, I used to know two Mormons and I'd say no, they are not too scary to be considered as presidential candidates. Not any different from anyone else, really.

Really, it's all about how one follows their religion. Both of the Mormons I knew considered themselves Mormons but like a lot of Christians/Catholics I've known, followed a diluted version of their faith.

Then again, considering I dated one of them, I may be a bit biased. Still... both supported gay marriage, both disliked Bush, and both were pretty cool people, not to mention smarter than a lot of others our age. I wouldn't vote for neither of them, but that decision has absolutely nothing to do with their religion.

The "real" Mormons are a whole different story. Much like the "real" Christians, they are WAY too scary for me to even consider them as a potential candidate.






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Huxley
Is Romney considered a 'real' Mormon? I ask because Carmel's responses brought me onto a wider question. Would America elect a Rev? Would America vote for anyone who is outwardly religious (I mean to the point of being a preacher etc?)

Or do you think that would be a bridge too far?

"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, reverend Al Sharpton....."

shudder.
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Bonzolee
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Would America elect a Rev? Would America vote for anyone who is outwardly religious (I mean to the point of being a preacher etc?)


Inconceivable.
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Perry
Only in America . . .

Land of whatortunity?
Edited by Perry, Jul 26 2009, 01:45 AM.
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Carmel1110
Bonz,

They have Mormons on the East Coast?! (lol!)

I live in Ohio and I have never met a Mormon, not once.

I was looking at Wiki earlier: American religious demograhics. Mormons only represent 1.7% of the US population.

The good news is: Skepticism is on the rise. In 2001 the "Atheist/Agnostic/no religion" population in the US was only 8%, but as of 2008 was up to 15%, still quite low compared to European nations. For example, in the UK, the "Atheist/Agnostic/no religion" population was 44%.

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Huxley,

I'm fresh out of inane rhetoric, so here's the straitforward answer which you requested:

No, I think it's highly unlikely that a Reverend, of any faith, would be elected to the U.S. Presidency.



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Huxley
You were using inane rhetoric? Don't worry then, your secret is safe with us.
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Joe E. Holman
Hideous, truly hideous! Sad day, indeed. America, as we know it, just moved out a notch from being one of the more repressive nations of the civilized democracies.

I can't resist the urge to blaspheme: "Gods, I fuck you with a broomstick!"

There, I feel much better! If I became an Irish citizen, I'd be wanted! I'm proud of that! :)
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