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| Topic Started: Jul 13 2009, 09:35 AM (461 Views) | |
| Post #1 Jul 13 2009, 09:35 AM | Huxley |
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OhFFShttp://cryptogon.com/?p=9792 Time was when pilots approaching ireland used to tell their passengers: There is a slight time difference in ireland. Please set your watches back 600 years. Its gone a lot further now. Wait until the evangelistic American Christians get hold of this. This is a dark ages day for all of us. |
 
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| Post #2 Jul 13 2009, 10:33 PM | Carmel1110 |
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Wow. That is truly shocking. Is anyone there protesting the legislation? Re: American evangelicals I don't know what the other Americans here think, but I absolutely can't imagine that happening here. Free Speech is too much an ingrained part of our culture. We Americans love our First Amendment rights and it permeates our legal system/courts. It's all pervasive. It's tempting to blaspheme at this juncture, but I'll be civil and refrain...for the time being. 
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| Post #3 Jul 14 2009, 04:18 AM | Perry |
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Perhaps Hux could petition Parliament for widening the Irish Sea and blowing up the Giant's Causeway, just in case the disease spreads? |
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| Post #4 Jul 14 2009, 10:20 AM | Huxley |
Would such a petition involve an oerlikan rocket launcher?  Dont think for one instant that the irish dont love their freedoms. Theyve been fighting for it for centuries. I shouuldnt get too sanguine if I were you; Blasphemy could easily push through even without it infringing any constitutional rights. There are too many Christians in the senate to rule out a move in that direction. After all, what rights do you atheists have now? The UN are trying to adopt a Blasphemy policy(if it isnt already implimented) and making it illegal. This is of course chartered by the Islamic countries who dont want Islam laughed at. Fuckers. 
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| Post #5 Jul 15 2009, 04:46 AM | Perry |
Does that meaning killing one another on the basis of religion might become blasphemous? Maybe this daft notion has merit, after all?  |
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| Post #6 Jul 17 2009, 09:34 AM | windsofchange |
| Jeez, I'm a Catholic of Irish heritage, and I've heard more blasphemy from my relatives than I ever heard from any poor innocent atheist! What are they gonna do, throw half of Ireland in jail? |
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| "Sometimes, you just gotta say, 'OK, I still have nine live, two-headed animals' and move on.'' (owner of Coney Island freak show, upon learning he'd been outbid for a 5-legged puppy) | |
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| Post #7 Jul 17 2009, 09:20 PM | Huxley |
| Then you should tell them they aren't proper Catholics. Benny the Poop recently reasserted catholic dogma and there is no veering from it. Blasphemy aint on the menu. |
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| Post #8 Jul 18 2009, 01:02 AM | Carmel1110 |
Edited by Carmel1110, Jul 18 2009, 01:45 AM.
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| Post #9 Jul 18 2009, 03:22 AM | Bonzolee |
On paper, sure; in reality, hell no. The thing about rules, laws and all that... it's all completely made up shit, and it can change on a dime. The actual history of America is full of unequal treatment under the law. I'm not hating on America or anything, I'm just stating a fact. Plus, there's a lot of other stuff that needs to be considered too. Like, under the current law, an atheist can run for president. But if people know the candidate's an atheist, then that person is not becoming president any time soon. I don't want to get all hypothetical and dream up bullshit worse case scenarios, but nothing really protects your rights. There are all sorts of things that can and have happened. Though, at the moment, the future looks quite bright for atheists in this country. Of course, things can change. Edited by Bonzolee, Jul 18 2009, 03:24 AM.
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"Brain disorders, like madness, are themselves contagious. The frequency of madness among doctors who are specialists for the mad is notorious." – Gustave Le Bon "The fact that audiences would rather go to Wonderland than face Iraq speaks volumes." – Random Youtube Poster | |
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| Post #10 Jul 18 2009, 10:05 AM | Huxley |
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Correct me if Im wrong but aren't atheists proscribed from certain jobs in some states? And, as the Bonzmeister alludes to, your rights may be constant but, in effect, atheists are barred from many disciplines, including being the Prez. I am only relating to the experience of American atheists who, in various forums, advise us they have less chance of equiality than our homosexual buddies. Thats what the fuck Im talking about man. |
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| Post #11 Jul 19 2009, 06:07 PM | Carmel1110 |
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Huxley, grrrrr lol, No, I'm not aware of any law that would support preclusion of an atheist for a job though I could be wrong. I do know that government jobs prescribe to Equal Opportunity Employment Laws, including(or especially) the President, which holds that people can't be discriminated against for a job on basis of religious beliefs(or lack thereof) race or gender. As Bonzo, indicated, "on paper" legally the rights are the same. However, yes, there is definitely a social pressure for the Prez to be religious(Christian). An atheist candidate could run, but the chances of him/her getting elected are slim to none. |
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| Post #12 Jul 20 2009, 11:04 AM | Huxley |
| I stand corrected then. Its just your fellow Americans advise me that atheists need not apply in certain states for certain jobs. If this is not the case then so be it but as I understand it, atheists do not enjoy the constitution as well as others. |
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| Post #13 Jul 21 2009, 09:21 AM | windsofchange |
Well, in my home state (California), there soon won't BE any jobs for either atheists OR theists, so rest easy! 
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| Post #14 Jul 21 2009, 09:28 AM | Huxley |
| Well you don't need to be bankrupt to be an atheist. Thank God. |
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| Post #15 Jul 21 2009, 06:06 PM | Carmel1110 |
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Huxley, I looked into this briefly, here's what I could garner from a brief search: American Atheists are protected from job discrimination by The First Amendment, Establishment Clause. It's illegal to even ask a job candidate what his religious beliefs or marital status are during a job interview. That's the legal side. It's also illegal to fire an employee for their beliefs or minority status. But, the reality is, the employer could fire the Atheist(or anyone) using any reason, or simply say: "We don't require your services any longer." If the employer used Atheism as the reason for firing, then the Atheist could sue for discrimination. So, in reality, there are ways around the laws, but the same holds true for any person of a minority status. Edited by Carmel1110, Jul 21 2009, 06:10 PM.
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