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Dawkins defends science
Topic Started: Mar 19 2008, 03:55 PM (1,230 Views)
Rachel J.
This was funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_2xGIwQfik&feature=related
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Joe E. Holman
Me and the atheist meet-up group of SA went to Austin last night to hear Dawkins speak in person. The place was filled to capacity and most of us ended up just having to leave! Man, this guy has become a God-slaying god!
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Huxley
I think he is right as well. There must be countless atheists in America but find it harder to come out than if they were gay :) It would be very interesting, as Dawkins says, to know how many Senators are actually atheist or agnostic? Geopolitically, there has to be quite a few but they know it would be political suicide to be honest about it.
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Huxley
May 8 2008, 08:39 AM
there has to be quite a few but they know it would be political suicide to be honest about it.
I completely agree with you. Even most moderates will defend theists out of "respect" (without ever analyzing what they're respecting).

Not only politics, but business as well. If you have a big mover and shaker they are most likely doing business with all kinds of people. It's safer for them just to keep their mouth shut. I saw Richard Branson doing an interview once and when the subject of his beliefs came up he politely declined. He wouldn't talk about it at all.
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Bonzolee
I don't know why it took me so long to watch that clip

but that was good! :D
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Noel Cookman
A marvelous display of worship although I got quite lost in the mush oozing from the questioner's ears and mouth. Can someone explain to me how this is brilliant, funny or serious? [I'm quite aware the the mere saying of the word "fuck" in any context, as a verb a noun, an adjective, a conjunction, an exclamation, et al, draws side-splitting laughter from from crowds otherwise thought to be supremely informed - maybe chic is the word.] Other than his charming British accent, I'm still looking for signs of intelligence from Dawkins.
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Huxley
If you cannot see it than you are not worthy.

Dawkins gets lambasted for being too straight laced and when he shows his sense of humour - which was a quote by the way- than he is lambasted for that.

Ah well, A prophet is never recognised in his own village.

If you find Dawkins unpalatable then try Hitchens. I guarantee you will be in apoplexy.
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May 27 2008, 06:27 PM
Other than his charming British accent, I'm still looking for signs of intelligence from Dawkins.
Have you read his books? I've read most of them, and he has a way of not only categorizing his knowledge of biology and the history of thought in the field of biology amazingly well, but his works are packed full of finer details on evolution. They are not elementary. He's not going to go back and lay the foundation for you, but for someone who understands the evolution of life, his works are rich. I especially liked River Out of Eden and The Ancestor's Tale.
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Huxley
I think "Climbing Mount Improbable" then "Selfish gene" are the ones that will liberate your bias towards someone you frankly do not understand.

He is not Darwin's Rottweiller for nothing.
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Dan
Good clip. Nothing quite like listening to someone of Dawkin's caliber use the work "Fuck".
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Noel Cookman
Huxley
May 8 2008, 08:39 AM
I think he is right as well. There must be countless atheists in America but find it harder to come out than if they were gay :) It would be very interesting, as Dawkins says, to know how many Senators are actually atheist or agnostic? Geopolitically, there has to be quite a few but they know it would be political suicide to be honest about it.
Do you think the same holds true in general about Christians . . . through the centuries - this fear that is, of declaring your true beliefs?
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Huxley
No. Those bastards spring up all over in place and time. As if they are programmed to convert us. They aren't allowed to burn us now- and Blasphemy (made up by old men to stop getting laughed at) is meaningless.

As George Carlin used to say "Keep thy religion to thyself"
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Noel Cookman
Huxley
Aug 2 2008, 11:11 AM
No. Those bastards spring up all over in place and time. As if they are programmed to convert us. They aren't allowed to burn us now- and Blasphemy (made up by old men to stop getting laughed at) is meaningless.

As George Carlin used to say "Keep thy religion to thyself"
In addition to making no sense, your retort seems to ignore also another glaring deficiency in your world view. For now, your thorough lack of knowledge of history aside (confident assertions of religious tyranny in complete denial of irreligious tyranny), it is amazing to see that you are blind to the utter hypocrisy and abject bankruptcy of a world view that allows for . . .

a politician to cloak himself in religion for the purposes of election only to secretly yearn for the sweet release of his true beliefs - a coming out of the closet - of a godless worldview.

Add the undeniable fact that his freedom to do such was guaranteed by men and women who fought and died for principles/freedoms which they "firmly" believed had been given them by God. Whether or not there really was a God who granted such freedoms, the lazy-ass atheist politician enjoys them without giving credit to whom credit is due, refusing to remember those who dug the well from which he drinks.

Who are the real goddam bastards?
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Noel Cookman
Huxley
Aug 2 2008, 11:11 AM

As George Carlin used to say "Keep thy religion to thyself"
Was Carlin as interested in Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Amin, Pol Pot, et al keeping their irreligion to themselves? Ooops. I suppose comedians aren't generally good at math.
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Huxley
You are evidently ignorant of the works of Carlin. He was a humanist, sceptic and intelligent.

Which is more than I can fathom about your posts.
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